E5/6 Rom with Launch Control added

[AndyF]

The first AndyF rewritten E5/6 ROM :lol:

Has been tested successfully on a number of cars now but any problems and please let me know.

It's a simple E6 RA map with the code added to it so as usual, use at your own risk and check for knock and fuelling etc...

Need to add the following lines to your xml file for 25570000

<table name="Stationary Rev Limit" address="1154e" scaling="RPMLimit"/>

<table name="Launch Control Speed Limit" address="11550" scaling="VehicleSpeed"/>

and the following to your evo5base xml

<table name="Stationary Rev Limit" category="Limits" type="1D" scaling="RPMStatLimit"/>

<table name="Launch Control Speed Limit" category="Limits" type="1D" level="1" scaling="VehicleSpeed"/>

Andy

[AndyF]

Or for those that can't be bothered to make the changes to the xml themselves :D

[Grant620]

Awesome Andy.
And with this in place we can alter the "stationary rev limit" in the ROM to get it how we want?

[GrayW]

Yes fully adjustable, along with release road speed.

[Grant620]

That's cool. Well done that man.

[Stany1975]

Brilliant Andy.

I have it on the 2443002 internal ID rom. What do i need alter in the .xml to be able to read it on mine as i would like to lower the launch revs?

[AndyF]

This is the same as a Tephra type rom where you use this one and copy over your fuelling, boost and ignition timing tables from your current rom.

Andy

[Stany1975]

I can't see the launch control speed limit and the stationary rev limiter is set at 7969 with ecuflash but i have the launch control on my rom as grayw sent it me.

I thought the xml file needs updating to show where the info is?

So I can just mod the above rom and put it on mine?

[GrayW]

Just use the rom above the matching XML, just swap your boost, timing and fuelling maps over.

[Stany1975]

what about the als that is on my rom?

[HermaN]

Excellent work andy! Do those XML's also include the tables for Evo V/VI ALS/Pops & bangs too?

Already got ALS mapped to my car thanks to a fellow geekmapper, but would like to be able to add, remove & tweak both ALS & LC without having to bother said geekmapper.

However, I've read the XML's for the V/VI ALS isn't being handed out, why is that?

Cheers!

[Grant620]

Sorry - dumbass question...
Do I just paste those XMLs into the rommetadata folder in ECUFlash?
And let them replace existing ones?

[evonut270]

Sorry - dumbass question...
Do I just paste those XMLs into the rommetadata folder in ECUFlash?
And let them replace existing ones?yep just make sure the old file is removed completely ot you may encounter probs.

[evonut270]

Excellent work andy! Do those XML's also include the tables for Evo V/VI ALS/Pops & bangs too?

Already got ALS mapped to my car thanks to a fellow geekmapper, but would like to be able to add, remove & tweak both ALS & LC without having to bother said geekmapper.

However, I've read the XML's for the V/VI ALS isn't being handed out, why is that?

Cheers!.

[Grant620]

On this ROM, the Launch Control Speed Limit is set to 2km/h.
If raised to, say, 20km/h, given that speedo reads in MPH, what will it allow full revs at? 20mph or 20km/h?

[starkers]

On this ROM, the Launch Control Speed Limit is set to 2km/h.
If raised to, say, 20km/h, given that speedo reads in MPH, what will it allow full revs at? 20mph or 20km/h?

It 'should' be kph. I have set it to 16 kph as this is what it's set to on the 7+ roms:smile:

Haven't had chance to test it out on the 6 yet, will be doing tomorrow though:>

[Grant620]

Thank you!

[Cossie1]

would be mph

[GrayW]

What it reads will depend on where the speedo converter is spliced in.

[Grant620]

Will it?
Surely if the ECU speed limit is removed then the speed converter will need to be before ECU?
Not sure mind.. ;)

[scottycsx]

if i emailed some one my map would they add the launch control on it for me? my map is a ra map with sas activated!

[starkers]

if i emailed some one my map would they add the launch control on it for me? my map is a ra map with sas activated!

PM'd you my e-mail address mate just send it over and i'll change it over for you:smile:

Scott

[evonut270]

Excellent work andy! Do those XML's also include the tables for Evo V/VI ALS/Pops & bangs too?

Already got ALS mapped to my car thanks to a fellow geekmapper, but would like to be able to add, remove & tweak both ALS & LC without having to bother said geekmapper.

However, I've read the XML's for the V/VI ALS isn't being handed out, why is that?

Cheers!if you need a hand drop me a pm :smile:

[todd]

@evonut270 your pm box is full ,:lol:

[AndyF]

The ALS settings remain only available to a select few people at the moment I'm afraid... they will be released officially soon though with a bit of luck.

Andy

[evonut270]

The ALS settings remain only available to a select few people at the moment I'm afraid... they will be released officially soon though with a bit of luck.

Andy
andy does the ALS work ok on the earlier cars?

[GrayW]

Will it?
Surely if the ECU speed limit is removed then the speed converter will need to be before ECU?
Not sure mind.. ;)

Some are near the dash clocks and the limiter is still in place, or the speed signal to the ECU has just been cut (then you get the lower rpm limit all the time).

[GrayW]

The ALS settings remain only available to a select few people at the moment I'm afraid... they will be released officially soon though with a bit of luck.

Andy


Just to highlight what Andy has said, the xml's are in the process of having all the current tables confirmed and verified. You will soon notice a section in the downloads section appear with XML's that are 100% checked, this is a slow process. If anyone wishes to add to these with confirmed and tested locations, please drop either Andy or myself a PM.

The main reason for doing this is there is a lot of incorrect tables defined in the current released set. There is also a case of the xml's we use for testing have been passed around with incorrect data in, someone then used this to try and adjust a different rom ID causing some interesting results:rolleyes:

[EvoErik]

Thanks, looks very nice!


Question: compared to the original RA map, the timing is different.
For example, see 4000rpm/180load. How come?

[AndyF]

Erik,
There is no difference compared to the E6 Ralliart ROM I have.

Andy

[Cossie1]

Thanks, looks very nice!


Question: compared to the original RA map, the timing is different.
For example, see 4000rpm/180load. How come?

Also 5500rpm / 100 load.

Erik,
There is no difference compared to the E6 Ralliart ROM I have.

Andy

There is 2 cells that are slightly different from an untouched RA rom.

As above 4000rpm / 180 load and 5500rpm / 100 load.

Your rom has 2° less at 180 load and 2° more at 5500rpm.

I don't see it as a problem, as it smooths the map out a little as it is :smile:

[EvoErik]

I don't see it as a problem, as it smooths the map out a little as it is :smile:
:smile: No problem at all -- was just curious why... :smile:

[scientist]

Will this work on a TME ecu (7203)

[GrayW]

Will this work on a TME ecu (7203)

Not until flashing the 7203 chip works, after that yes.

[HsamehH]

after installing the posted xml's i noticed that the timing retard limit changed from 180 to -5? why is that ? :)

[AndyF]

after installing the posted xml's i noticed that the timing retard limit changed from 180 to -5? why is that ? :)Because the xml equation has been adjusted so that you can type in the number of degrees of retard you want rather than try to just work it out from a number.

Andy

[HsamehH]

good work andy ;) is the maximum retard 10 degree or higher ?

[EvoErik]

...just to let you know: works like a charm! :smile:

(Launch control is somehow funny!)

[Guille_evo]

I have an VI with V ecu. ID:22580006, I read the full post. Evo5base.xml and 25570000.xml files were replaced on ROMMEDATA. Should I replace my hex file and burn 25570000_launcher.1.3.hex ??.
Sorry about my english. Thanks

[starkers]

I have an VI with V ecu. ID:22580006, I read the full post. Evo5base.xml and 25570000.xml files were replaced on ROMMEDATA. Should I replace my hex file and burn 25570000_launcher.1.3.hex ??.
Sorry about my english. Thanks

Yes mate, make sure to copy over your ignition/fueling maps and use the 25570000_launcher.1.3.hex that Andy put up:smile:

[Guille_evo]

thanks mate.-

[Guille_evo]

:wub: Works great on my VI !!!

[luvnish]

Wow, this is really excellent guys. My hat's off to you.

I want to try this and I understand what to do, is just that I am unclear what tables I should copy across to the new .hex since my injectors are not stock and changes have been made in other tables to scale them in.

Any advice?

Thanks again!

[GrayW]

Copy fuel, ignition, boost limits etc to the new rom.

[robevans]

could someone please add the launch control to my ROM please?

is has ALS what I would like to keep :)

[starkers]

could someone please add the launch control to my ROM please?

is has ALS what I would like to keep :)

If it hasn't been done yet mate then post your rom up or e-mail it to me and i'll change it over for you:smile:

Scott

[foxbat]

Is it possible to switch the launch control on/off via an electric switch wired to the ecu?

Fox

[robevans]

Thanks starkers!

here it is...

my emails rpe@hotmail.co.uk :smile:

[starkers]

What do you want the LC set to mate?
I have put it to 4500 rpm at the moment. I haven't changed over the boost settings as i think your running a boost controller anyway:smile:

[starkers]

Here it is:lol:

[robevans]

Thanks starkers :)

[robevans]

how do i use it? set the stat rev limit to say 4k, log the load, then add some neg timing in those load cells to make some boost?

WARNING to anyone thinking of trying my ROM, it has forced openloop as my lambda is faulty at the moment

[preparaator]

how do i use it? set the stat rev limit to say 4k, log the load, then add some neg timing in those load cells to make some boost?

WARNING to anyone thinking of trying my ROM, it has forced openloop as my lambda is faulty at the moment

When ALS is active how much boost it holds?
Is the ALS made using SAS?

Thanks!

[keydiver]

I patched Andy's 25570000 ROM with my knock Check Engine Light routine. Can someone test it for me?
875

[HermaN]

When ALS is active how much boost it holds?
Is the ALS made using SAS?

Thanks!

You can make about 1.4 bar of boost if you add -'ve timing around the areas of load vs RPM the car is seeing when on the limiter. SAS will help, because it dumps more air into the exhaust to help it burn, but I don't think having SAS enabled would be a must have to create +'ve boost.

Thread about this topic on MLR here (http://www.lancerregister.com/showthread.php?t=304480).

[preparaator]

You can make about 1.4 bar of boost if you add -'ve timing around the areas of load vs RPM the car is seeing when on the limiter. SAS will help, because it dumps more air into the exhaust to help it burn, but I don't think having SAS enabled would be a must have to create +'ve boost.

Thread about this topic on MLR here (http://www.lancerregister.com/showthread.php?t=304480).

I was asking about Robevans ALS few posts above not stationary limiter boost:confused1: When stationary I have around 0,5bar boost and that is enough. Im attending peoples rally competitions in Estonia and would like to have proper ALS.

[HermaN]

From what I read, it looks like Rob was posting about building boost while stationary by retarding the ignition in the areas that are being hit in the map while at the L/C limiter, which is still a form of ALS, but not proper ALS.

As for proper ALS, yes the SAS can be enabled to help by dumping air into the manifold, but it's not a must have. The amount of boost you can hold depends on how much you retard the timing. Proper ALS on rally cars have something like -40* retard IIRC, but then again, they go through a turbo a day.

Personally, I wouldn't go for proper ALS unless you enjoy forking out for new turbos. Remember to keep an eye on EGT's.

You'll also have to remember to change the timing retard limit on the ROM, at stock the ECU won't retard more than -5*, no matter what value is in the map.

[anttist]

I patched Andy's 25570000 ROM with my knock Check Engine Light routine. Can someone test it for me?
875

Has anybody tried this yet?

[Paul R]

Was going to try it this weekend and see how my rattly engine does (really need to do those lash adjusters at some point)

[edwin.opie]

can i just add those additional command to any e5/e6 xml? thanks.

edwin

[Guille_evo]

:blushing:

how do i use it? set the stat rev limit to say 4k, log the load, then add some neg timing in those load cells to make some boost?

WARNING to anyone thinking of trying my ROM, it has forced openloop as my lambda is faulty at the moment

[merlin]

keydiver, did anyone try your cel on knock modified rom ?

[evonut270]

keydiver, did anyone try your cel on knock modified rom ?

Didn't even know that had been posted I can get it tested this week if needed

[outo]

Didn't even know that had been posted I can get it tested this week if needed

:>

[foxbat]

How can I change the desired launch RPM?
I entered 4500 in the stat-rev limiter, but the car still revved up to 5500 upon launch!

[AndyF]

I assume you flashed the new ROM image onto the car?

[foxbat]

I assume you flashed the new ROM image onto the car?

Yes I did & I entered 4500 under stat. rev limiter, but the car still revved up to 5500 upon launch. I checked the xml file but I still couldn't where the rom is deriving the 5500rpm limit from so I could change it!

[AndyF]

Are you using the xml given in this thread because the std location in EcuFlash for the stationary limiter is wrong and so that's why it won't work.

Andy

[foxbat]

Are you using the xml given in this thread because the std location in EcuFlash for the stationary limiter is wrong and so that's why it won't work.

Andy

I'll check which xml I'm using, but assuming I'm using the correct xml, would I be able to change the LC rpm limit by simply changing the number under stat. rev limiter?

[AndyF]

I'll check which xml I'm using, but assuming I'm using the correct xml, would I be able to change the LC rpm limit by simply changing the number under stat. rev limiter?Not if you're using an incorrect xml because the stat rev limiter is not in the correct place on the standard xml's with ECUFlash.

Andy

[tme2000]

can this rom be flashed to the tme ecu

[tme2000]

if u look at the ra xml can u just cut and paste the als and launch control addresses in to ur stock rom xml file??

[AndyF]

No you can't just cut and paste the xml addresses into the Ralliart ECU because the code in the actual ECU file has been changed so you have to use this ECU file with the xml provided.

Andy

[tme2000]

so using a modded xml with my stock rom from the download list for 5/6 , this will allow me to have launch control and als. so when i pull my rom from my tme if u swap the stock xml that ecuflash give me for the modded one wich i download with i have the asl and launch control option
??

sorry for the noobness

[rsvRob]

rom and xml have to match. The rom uses 2 xmls to show tables, a base xml and rom specific xml normaly. You need both. Just use the e6ra map with your fuel and timing tables copied over. Or the ceddy rom and xml

[Anth-4g68]

how do i transfer these files into my EcuFlash Version 1.42.2595 ?? i havn't used this ecu flasher before and i am completley lost im just having a fiddle with the laptop as i've never used this software before

[nick.jpn]

Hi dear geeks!
My MMC Galant-VR4 JDM has ECU with H8539F (id:20030011) plastic case, rom very similar to 5/6 evo. My question is: it has ALS as evo 5/6 ? And there is a possibility to make it on with alternative maps for launch ? That was like here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5eLHAFp_YQ

[EvolutionVI]

Flashed this onto my VI last night, worked mint. Good work!

For pops an bangs when on launch control, do we need a seperate table added in the xml to retard the ignition just before limiter...has anyone done this yet with success??

[AndyF]

Use the Ceddy mods rom in the disassembly section on here and you can run with ignition retard on the launch control and a whole lot more :D

Andy