knock

[Leecavturbo]

ok now i have cel flash working i have atleast 8 counts or more even at 1 bar (fast flash).
yes i will get logs.
but am i 100% losing power (risk aside) with knock even if its 8 counts bang on?

[Cossie1]

Yes, anything sustaned over 3 counts will pull timing, and past 6 counts will drop the octane level

[GrayW]

Check the octane flag Lee, if it's below 100 you will be loosing power.

[Lee5]

Lee, Are you using Det cans ? and get the logs up......:)

Lee

[Cossie1]

Check the octane flag Lee, if it's below 100 you will be loosing power..

[Leecavturbo]

Lee, Are you using Det cans ? and get the logs up......:)

Lee

nah just got the knock cel flash working and its flashing its tits off :blink:

[GrayW]

Lee, send me your current rom or post it, list the mods and I'll pop something suitable on it for you to start with.

[Lee5]

nah just got the knock cel flash working and its flashing its tits off :blink:


Is it when you are coming on boost or WOT.

Has the car been remapped or std.

Try and post some logs and the rom if you can Lee as then it will help pin point your problem.

Lee

[Cossie1]

Nice edit gray, making me look stupid :lol:

[Leecavturbo]

Lee. low knock counts 3+ on the very onset of boost
and high counts on load
not remapped
just 3" zorst + decat

[Lee5]

Lee. low knock counts 3+ on the very onset of boost
and high counts on load
not remapped
just 3" zorst + decat

That dont sound right and i know the base maps are a little bit aggraive but to get 3+ :blink:

Do you have a wide band if so what afr's are you getting as well.

LOGS ???? :>


Lee

[Leecavturbo]

yes wideband. 11.5 highest iirc

[Lee5]

So Fueling is ok at WOT, so it has to be the timing so you will need to look at the load areas you are hitting.

Lee

[Leecavturbo]

So Fueling is ok at WOT, so it has to be the timing so you will need to look at the load areas you are hitting.

Lee

best get the logs first eh :smile:
map tracer any use ? how the funk do i use that if so?

[Leecavturbo]

what bugs me is i'm having to map away from danger instead of upto it.
if i had a nice safe map ignition and fuel wise i can work up to optimum
but as it is i could be causing some damage doing WOT runs to get logs :angry:

[Lee5]

best get the logs first eh :smile:
map tracer any use ? how the funk do i use that if so?

Yea get some logs done as this will show you where its knocking.

I take it you are using EVOscan.

[Leecavturbo]

got some old scans if ya want a quick look lee before i go out and get some upto date ones

[Lee5]

got some old scans if ya want a quick look lee before i go out and get some upto date ones

Post up the old ones and then the new ones as it will be good to see the difference.

Lee

[Leecavturbo]

best way to post them? a fourth gear pull?

[Lee5]

best way to post them? a fourth gear pull?


Zip the file if you can.

try and do 3 or so in 3rd/4th and 5th from low down I know you wont get to max rpm in 5th but it will give you a good idea and where to start.


Lee

[Leecavturbo]

oh send it you as a file to look at instead of pics on here :blushing:

[Lee5]

oh send it you as a file to look at instead of pics on here :blushing:

You can do both or upload the file to the forum for others to see as well to help you out.

Now stop typing and get logging.....:lol:

Lee

[Leecavturbo]

gray told me to set/check the injector size i have in evoscan! but where
i have std injectors

[Lee5]

gray told me to set/check the injector size i have in evoscan! but where
i have std injectors

Yea set the box to 542 where is says injector scaling.

Lee

[Leecavturbo]

Yea set the box to 542 where is says injector scaling.

Lee

lol in 2.5 not in 2.3 :rolleyes:
right where do i up load these logs?
or msn for ease ?

[Lee5]

MSN if you want or on here...

leejbell@hotmail.com

[Leecavturbo]

sent . i bet you say i never logged the right stuff :tt2:
wideband not recorded but not bothered about that

[Lee5]

Well the 1st log reads ok, but the 2nd log it starts to knock at 2500rpm ish all the way to 4.5k and you can see it pulling the timing so you need to remove timing at that rpm and the load area.

I can post the logs on here for the others to have a look at if you want?

Lee

[Leecavturbo]

Well the 1st log reads ok, but the 2nd log it starts to knock at 2500rpm ish all the way to 4.5k and you can see it pulling the timing so you need to remove timing at that rpm and the load area.

I can post the logs on here for the others to have a look at if you want?

Lee

yeah no bother :>
i must not have 2byte cus load didn't record. i thought gray did that for me in my rom!?
so if i get rid of knock completely on 1 bar i'll then move up the boost and keep doing the same?
thought it be safer than logging boost that badly knocks

[Lee5]

:smile:

[Leecavturbo]

cheers Lee
or
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/leesturbo/knock2.jpg

[Lee5]

yeah no bother :>
i must not have 2byte cus load didn't record. i thought gray did that for me in my rom!?
so if i get rid of knock completely on 1 bar i'll then move up the boost and keep doing the same?
thought it be safer than logging boost that badly knocks


Yes mate you can keep upping the boost to safe level looking at AFR's and knock, You also need to log octane flag this will show if you are losing power as it need to stay at 100.

Load as well if you cant get the 2byte to work as this will give you the areas to look at in the map.

Could you send me the ROM as well just so i can compare it to other I have.

Cheers
Lee

[Leecavturbo]

sent

[Lee5]

sent


Just having a look give my 10 mins ;)

Lee

[GrayW]

Lee, 1 byte load works on 96260009, add this to your Evoscan data.xml

<DataListItem DataLog="Y" Color="" Display="Load 1Byte" LogReference="Load1B" RequestID="41" Eval="1.2*x" Unit="load" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="1" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="270" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="270" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="" Priority="1" Visible="False" />

[Cossie1]

Leecav m8

Lee5 just sent me over your tephra rom, and your original rom.

Something doesn't add up, as both tephra maps, are different from your stock map, and your stock map, is not stock either.

Also the immobiliser code is completely different in both roms.

I have just sent Lee5 an original stock FQ300 rom now, and he is copying everything over into the tephra rom for you to test now.

[Leecavturbo]

Leecav m8

Lee5 just sent me over your tephra rom, and your original rom.

Something doesn't add up, as both tephra maps, are different from your stock map, and your stock map, is not stock either.

Also the immobiliser code is completely different in both roms.

I have just sent Lee5 an original stock FQ300 rom now, and he is copying everything over into the tephra rom for you to test now.

from what i can remember i initially copied over all the maps from my stock to this new rom then add tephra or vice versa then i either gave it to gray to add tephra patch or he did the whole swap i forget tbh.
until we can load logged proper we wont know but from vbox logs this car went well even if this knock is present

[Lee5]

Lee,

You have mail, there was a bit to much timing in the map as the car came on boost the rev limit was set to 7k so changed that, the tephra mod part of the map now has a stock timing map with your fuel map in it which i smoothed out a bit for you :), the std map is stock timing and fuel.

Log the car see how it goes, now and log load and knock and octane.

Cheers
Lee

[GrayW]

From memory I sent you a rom from another FQ300 that had just started running the 96260009. It has the immobiliser disabled and the CEL removed for the second BCS not connected. All the tables including fuel and ignition would have been what was running on the car the rom came from.
Not unless when I fixed the CEL flash issue the other day I sent you an incorrect rom back.

from what i can remember i initially copied over all the maps from my stock to this new rom then add tephra or vice versa then i either gave it to gray to add tephra patch or he did the whole swap i forget tbh.
until we can load logged proper we wont know but from vbox logs this car went well even if this knock is present

[Leecavturbo]

its been a while and possible muck ups by me but it will get sorted i'm sure :smile:
i'm sure you told me to put my maps in that 0009 rom which i'm sure i did oh well.
edit: how dumb just clocked it evoscan data not my ecuflash xml. bollocks

[Cossie1]

its been a while and possible muck ups by me but it will get sorted i'm sure :smile:
i'm sure you told me to put my maps in that 0009 rom which i'm sure i did oh well.

Ok lets assume you did put your maps into that rom.

Who did the tune for your maps originally ?

[Leecavturbo]

Ok lets assume you did put your maps into that rom.

Who did the tune for your maps originally ?

don't know. before i had it if its not standard, unlikely been messed with completely bogo

[GrayW]

Lee's car was stock Russ, it's never been mapped.

[Cossie1]

Lee's car was stock Russ, it's never been mapped.

Well the rom he sent to Lee, was anything but stock.

Lee5 asked him for his orignal stock rom, and that wasn't stock either and different again to both maps in the v5 rom he sent.

Hence the question.

[GrayW]

Do you have the original 93660005 read image?

don't know. before i had it if its not standard

[Leecavturbo]

Do you have the original 93660005 read image?

yeah you had it once too but appreciate you see loads of them.
sent it ya now

[GrayW]

The V5 would have been one I've sent him, so there's a good chance the maps in it were not from his car.


Well the rom he sent to Lee, was anything but stock.

Lee5 asked him for his orignal stock rom, and that wasn't stock either and different again to both maps in the v5 rom he sent.

Hence the question.

[Cossie1]

The V5 would have been one I've sent him, so there's a good chance the maps in it were not from his car.

Ok but the stock rom he sent over, from his car, is not stock either.

[Leecavturbo]

Ok but the stock rom he sent over, from his car, is not stock either.

weird

[Leecavturbo]

are the japs ecuflash active?
who buys a new car and maps it with no mods?

[Lee5]

Sorry been away for bit, and boy have we moved on.

When I looked at the rom from Lee, it didnt look like stock so I asked Russ if he had a stock copy and asked him to look at it.

I can screen dump it if you wish ?

Lee

[Cossie1]

weird



Lee sent you a stock (non v5) fq300 rom

Try that rom on your car, and do some good datalogs with it

To make sure the car is running as it should.

Then we can sort out a v5 version for you once we know that everything is good.

[Leecavturbo]

yeah i'm gonna wack it in tomoz :tt1:

[Leecavturbo]

Sorry been away for bit, and boy have we moved on.

When I looked at the rom from Lee, it didnt look like stock so I asked Russ if he had a stock copy and asked him to look at it.

I can screen dump it if you wish ?

Lee

i'd prefer pics of my maps than your dumpage :lol:

[Lee5]

Stock top map yours bottem. :)

[GrayW]

They do have flash software, as ceasersons rom had been modified there.

Might have got to the bottom of it, the map you are running is the original rom file I sent you 07.09.2008 but needed the tables changed, but looks like it was not done. I've forwarded you all the email.


are the japs ecuflash active?
who buys a new car and maps it with no mods?

[Leecavturbo]

hmm no better. 2 mins for logs.
how do you get wideband to log as 14.7 instead of single digit again :cursing:
.
is load correct for about 1 bar? but looks too steady and its very near 255 which is one of those computer numbers!
knock seems different in different gears and if going up or down slight hills?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/leesturbo/log-1.jpg

[Lee5]

So even with the less timing it is still knocking and load 255 from my logs works out at 1.4ish.

Lee

[Leecavturbo]

So even with the less timing it is still knocking and load 255 from my logs works out at 1.4ish.

Lee

deffo 1 bar. maybe i need the 2byte load working?
it felt quite flat too compared to before
yeah that load is 255 so i think its not right

[Lee5]

deffo 1 bar. maybe i need the 2byte load working?
it felt quite flat too compared to before
yeah that load is 255 so i think its not right

Is that what you are seeing on a boost gauge as load 255 is very high.

Have you tried it on the other setting as this has lees fuel.

Send me the log if you can and i will have another look.

Cheers
Lee

[Cossie1]

I'm not even hitting 255 load on mine, at 1.7bar and 416bhp.

EDIT:

What version of evoscan are you using ?

[Leecavturbo]

2.5
i logged that load as it seemed the only one with any moving data when i pressed the throttle!
:confused1:
don't you think its odd tho as 255 is one of those binary ecu type top of the shop numbers!

[Cossie1]

Have you changed the injector scaling ?

[Leecavturbo]

Have you changed the injector scaling ?

yep 542
i'm gona log speed too next as knock seems different dependant on gear so that will tell us more

[Lee5]

Lee,

Just log all the box's as you are missing loads of info that will help.

Also do 1 log in 3rd then 4th etc

Also you running a boost controller ?

Lee

[Leecavturbo]

Lee,

Just log all the box's as you are missing loads of info that will help.

Also do 1 log in 3rd then 4th etc

Also you running a boost controller ?

Lee

yep apexi. i thought logging too many parameters slowed logging up too much?

[Lee5]

yep apexi. i thought logging too many parameters slowed logging up too much?

Yea it does, but if you do them all I know you wont miss one :lol:

Edit to add, Just flash the stock rom on the car, log that and see what happens.




Lee

[Leecavturbo]

lee i was just about to add the 1byte load to my xml but every single line in my xml begins with <table whilst the text gray gave me to put in begins with data is that right? enter it after everything but before rom at the end?
page 4 on this thread

[Leecavturbo]

opened the data xml and found repeats of the lines in various modes so i added the 1 byte load text to match the other i.e in several places
so it was as the rest. i.e that line for tps appeared 3 or 4 times so i entered the new line like for like. correct to do or not?
.
<?xml version="1.0"?>
<EvoScanDataLogger>
<vehicle name="1996+ Mitsubishi" LastUpdated="2nd July 2006" LastAuthor="Hamish Ahern" LastAuthorContact="evo4mad@limitless.co.nz">
<ecu name="EFI">
<Mode1 name="Mode1" type="Diagnostic Trouble Codes">
<DTC Code="11" Bit="0" DiagnosticItem="Oxygen Sensor" />
<DTC Code="12" Bit="1" DiagnosticItem="Intake air flow sensor" />
<DTC Code="13" Bit="2" DiagnosticItem="Intake temperature sensor" />
<DTC Code="14" Bit="3" DiagnosticItem="Throttle position sensor" />
<DTC Code="15" Bit="4" DiagnosticItem="ISC motor position sensor" />
<DTC Code="21" Bit="5" DiagnosticItem="Engine coolant temperature sensor" />
<DTC Code="22" Bit="6" DiagnosticItem="Crankshaft position sensor" />
<DTC Code="23" Bit="7" DiagnosticItem="Camshaft position sensor" />
<DTC Code="24" Bit="8" DiagnosticItem="Vehicle speed sensor" />
<DTC Code="25" Bit="9" DiagnosticItem="Barometric pressure sensor" />
<DTC Code="31" Bit="10" DiagnosticItem="Knock sensor" />
<DTC Code="41" Bit="11" DiagnosticItem="Injector circuit" />
<DTC Code="42" Bit="12" DiagnosticItem="Fuel pump relay" />
<DTC Code="43" Bit="13" DiagnosticItem="EGR sensor" />
<DTC Code="44" Bit="14" DiagnosticItem="Ignition coil" />
<DTC Code="36" Bit="15" DiagnosticItem="Ignition circuit" />
<DTCControl Code="38" DiagnosticItem="Current Faults, low byte" Notes="0x38 or 0x4C" />
<DTCControl Code="39" DiagnosticItem="Current Faults, high byte" Notes="0x39 or 0x4D" />
<DTCControl Code="3B" DiagnosticItem="Stored Faults, low byte" Notes="0x3B or 0x4A" />
<DTCControl Code="3C" DiagnosticItem="Stored Faults, high byte" Notes="0x3C or 0x4B" />
<DTCControl Code="CA" DiagnosticItem="Clear Fault Codes" Notes="returns 0x00" />
</Mode1>
<Mode2 name="Mode2" type="Data List Items">
<DataListItem DataLog="Y" Color="" Display="Load 1Byte" LogReference="Load1B" RequestID="41" Eval="1.2*x" Unit="load" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="1" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="270" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="270" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="" Priority="1" Visible="False" /> <DataListItem DataLog="Y" Color="#b00009" Display="Throttle Position" LogReference="TPS" RequestID="17" Eval="x*100/255" Unit="%" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="1" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="100" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="100" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="Displays state of the throttle. High

[Leecavturbo]

just used calculated load and 1.1bar = 242 is that about right now?

[Leecavturbo]

this is using a rom that gray sent me last night.
first run is third to 4th.
second run is a 3rd gear pull then slow immediately then 4th gear pull straight after.
ps gray the 1 byte load would not work need more help with that. it appeared in evoscan but no data
.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/leesturbo/knocklog.jpg

[Lee5]

Hi Lee,

This is from the log you sent me, you need to remove timing in the areas that are showing knock in the load areas to start with to stop the car from knocking.

[GrayW]

Remove a degree or two from the cel where it first starts to knock, you may find by doinf this the rest of the map is fine. It's much harder to stop knock once it starts.

[Leecavturbo]

is load correct ish?

[Leecavturbo]

Hi Lee,

This is from the log you sent me, you need to remove timing in the areas that are showing knock in the load areas to start with to stop the car from knocking.

lee how did you get the 3 graphs to populate?
i can only get the top graph ?
why is my load scale only 260? i'm very close to that at 1.3bar looking at the logs
can i increase it to 300?

[Leecavturbo]

am i right in thinking these represent degree btdc ?
so 18 is 18° so by lowering that number i retard igntion?
really need the scale correct in map tracer now to see whats going on as its only showing load upto 100!!!!!!!!!

[GrayW]

Lee have you started using the stock timing and fuel map now, and what fuel are you using?

[Leecavturbo]

Lee have you started using the stock timing and fuel map now, and what fuel are you using?

super unleaded. i have the last rom you sent me in. altho i have now adjusted some timing out.
when i put that rom in exactly as you sent it, knock was as before. it also has knock at every rpm on the onset of boost not much 4-5 but some but always.
got a log mostly zero knock with some sporadic 10 -11's!
just going on the cel flash there is <3 counts after spool. as i saw <3 i decided to go back to 1.3bar (setting A apexi) and boost is now peaking 1.45-1.5 where as before it was 1.3 peak and held! not sure if its relavent

[GrayW]

Lee use this, it 96260009 but with stock timing and fuel.

[Leecavturbo]

will try.
just had an intresting summary of high load / low actual boost!
A BOOSTLEAK! if load is high maf reads lots of air passing but if actual boost is low because its leaking! ??????

[GrayW]

When you run the above rom, log 1 byte load and see what you get. High load does indicate a boost leak.

[Leecavturbo]

not had chance to get that last rom in. went to santa pod today so got a lengthy log, i pulled atleast 2 degrees in middle of load around spool , not touched any in the 1.2+ bar region which i should of a low rpm, peak torque is where the most of it is now, like you say gray once its started it wants to carry on watching the cel. if i can get on wot with triggering it it doesn't come until very late 6k wot and then only 3-5's but doesn't show in the logs that was on the cel
not how you lot would do it but i'm learning :p
this was a big log 1hrs worth with alot of motorway
.
average knock
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/leesturbo/averagesknock.png
.
max knock
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/leesturbo/maxknock.png

[Cossie1]

You must have a massive boost leak, mate.

My car won't sit in the 260 load like that.

Either that, or you have a serious issue with your engine.

[Leecavturbo]

You must have a massive boost leak, mate.

My car won't sit in the 260 load like that.

Either that, or you have a serious issue with your engine.

don't know whats going on. i convoyed down to pod with another evo 8 running ix turbo 10.5 and RR at 440 and there wasn't much in it.
the guy was pretty pissed off :confused1:

[Cossie1]

don't know whats going on. i convoyed down to pod with another evo 8 running ix turbo 10.5 and RR at 440 and there wasn't much in it.
the guy was pretty pissed off :confused1:

Take the car to someone that knows what there doing.

Get it checked over and mapped propperly.

[Leecavturbo]

Take the car to someone that knows what there doing.

Get it checked over and mapped propperly.

i know russ, but fundage :blushing: and i like to learn too

[Cossie1]

i know russ, but fundage :blushing: and i like to learn too

Not being funny, but the ecu can only save your engine so much.

If your constantly running it with highish knock, and not getting any closer to sorting out, at some point it's going to cost you an engine imo.

[Leecavturbo]

Not being funny, but the ecu can only save your engine so much.

If your constantly running it with highish knock, and not getting any closer to sorting out, at some point it's going to cost you an engine imo.

i'm very consious of it russ, if i get any i'm off the throttle

[Cossie1]

i'm very consious of it russ, if i get any i'm off the throttle

How are you getting off the throttle, when you have the above log ?

[Leecavturbo]

How are you getting off the throttle, when you have the above log ?

there is only small knock so ok ish? then on the higher rpm i had no knock until then and then let off instantly
don't look at that log and think i had constant knock i.e while doing a wot run from low rpm to redline

[Leecavturbo]

hmmm evoscan calc power @ 371 and 399tq
which would seem right against the ix turbo E8 i had a play with today!
it does 110mph 1/4's with a passenger!
i wonder if my car has the 10.5 and/or ix turbo???
it doesn't feel like it to me tho.
i better check over the apexi again too

[Leecavturbo]

my apexi boost reference was from the turbo outlet , iv'e now moved it to the bov vacuum but it made no difference maybe 1% duty needed changing.
this says to me initially that there is not a boost leak!?

[GrayW]

Lee, flash the rom I sent you yesterday, it's 96260009 but with the VIII standard fuel and timing.

[Leecavturbo]

Lee, flash the rom I sent you yesterday, it's 96260009 but with the VIII standard fuel and timing.

i will,i will :tt1:
i'm playing and learning atm.
i've now got the most comprehensive logs i've done yet with wideband working properly etc and 1 byte load.
got some timing out of the on boost areas and knock is as low as ever.
.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/leesturbo/afr-1.png
.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/leesturbo/knock-2.png
.
.
.
why is there gaps in my wideband logs?
.
.
.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/leesturbo/missingafr.png

[Lee5]

Have you flashed the other rom in yet???

If so did it sort out the knock?

Also from looking at your wide band log in evo scan load line 120-140, 2500-3500 is very lean

Lee

[Leecavturbo]

Have you flashed the other rom in yet???

If so did it sort out the knock?

Also from looking at your wide band log in evo scan load line 120-140, 2500-3500 is very lean

Lee

no.
n/a.
lean spool ?
i've reduced knock massively if not all but i just decremented timing in big clumps lol
i wanna learn mapping so i wanna do it my way and learn but with guidance from the geeks.
atleast now its safer. i can go forward now map afr's then timing
after i sort out wether my load is correct and if not why not.
i can send you my latest comprehensive log if ya like?

[Lee5]

no.
n/a.
lean spool ?

:lol:

I don't use lean spool, but I thought the way it worked was it was just 1.0 afr above the figure in the map but 15.7, 15.1 and 14.7 is just to lean and this will cause you knock and kill the engine over time.

You need to get it around 13afr at that load IMO

Lee

[Leecavturbo]

:lol:

I don't use lean spool, but I thought the way it worked was it was just 1.0 afr above the figure in the map but 15.7, 15.1 and 14.7 is just to lean and this will cause you knock and kill the engine over time.

You need to get it around 13afr at that load IMO

Lee

ain't no 15's i've seen ???????
iirc leanest on boost 11.8 with a sporadic 12.4 ish for micro secs!

[Lee5]

ain't no 15's i've seen ???????
iirc leanest on boost 11.8 with a sporadic 12.4 ish for micro secs!

Its not when its on full load its as it comes on boost low down, load 120-140 you need more fuel, trust me or turn off lean spool and log it again.

Lee

[Leecavturbo]

Its not when its on full load its as it comes on boost low down, load 120-140 you need more fuel, trust me or turn off lean spool and log it again.

Lee

is see that :thumbup1:

[Leecavturbo]

any loss of spool with lean spool off?

[Lee5]

any loss of spool with lean spool off?

No, not if mapped right :tt2:

I will post up my log without lean spool:smile:


Lee

[Lee5]

As you can see load 290-300, running 1.7 bar 3343 rpm:omg:

Lee

[Leecavturbo]

what evoscan is that?
nice spool :tt1:

[Lee5]

what evoscan is that?
nice spool :tt1:

Evoscan 2.6 beta 7:eek:

Spool is not finished yet should get it a bit lower as that was just a quick 40 mins mapping session on my own...:lol:

Lee

[Leecavturbo]

Evoscan 2.6 beta 7:eek:

Spool is not finished yet should get it a bit lower as that was just a quick 40 mins mapping session on my own...:lol:

Lee

the beta wouldn't work too good for me

[madmunky]

Thought id post in here rather than start a new thread, so got my cable yesterday and loaded on the map HermaN did for me with the Rallyart timing/fuel and ALS/Launch enabled with some pops and bangs but I logged the car on my way to work this morning and noticed some knock counts, so paid abit more attention to my CEL light and i seem to get them when WOT when its boosting, the highest count was 6 but still is that right with the rallyart map?

Sorry the logs are so long it was an hours logging...

Update: After reading a bit more of the thread Lees problem was a boost leak and I know I have a faulty actuator and Im fitting a 1.2bar one tomorrow (if I can get it on) could that be causing the knock, also with the pops and bangs enabled it does let out some really massive ones would they register on the knock sensor?