Evo 7 Ralliart Rom (Tephra V5.10) 90550001

[Cossie1]

Evo 7 RA Rom with Tephra V5.10 patch

[nads1978]

Something that confuses me is:

When I put this rom into ECUflash, why does it tell me the submodel is Evo9 & has MIVEC information on it?

[Cossie1]

Try this definition file

[nads1978]

Kick ass dude. :thumbup1:
Cheers.

[puchtuner]

Hi Cossie1,

where are the diffrences in the ralliart rom, tephra ralliart rom and the normal rom?

Are the differences in performance or where? If yes how much performance these roms bring in a standard evo 7?

[Cossie1]

Standard rom is, just that a standard rom for a standard car.

The Ralliart rom, allows you to run more boost, and it leans the fuelling out a little to help produce more power, as for how much power you get from it, it depends on what mods you fit and how much boost you run.

If you fit a walbro fuel pump, decat, decent airfilter and a boost controller, set to 1.6bar you should get around 350 - 370bhp depending on how well your car responds to the mods.

You would need to get your AFR's (fueling) checked and also check the engine to make sure it isn't detting (knocking).

The Tephra version of the ralliart rom, is just the same map, but with some extras, such as 2 maps, flat throttle gear shifting, flashing engine management light if there is knock etc etc.

[wally]

Im running the e7RA on my e6, but it is knocking
I havent installed the Walbro 255 yet although I have a e9 Turbo..and my boost is only at 1.2/1.3 still knocking!

[evo_gerard]

so its as easy as pasting the xml in ecuflash and flashin the rom to my ecu??? (sorry if i'm a dummy lol i'm a newbie to this ecuflash thing)

[evonut270]

so its as easy as pasting the xml in ecuflash and flashin the rom to my ecu??? (sorry if i'm a dummy lol i'm a newbie to this ecuflash thing)the flashing is easy its logging and altering tables thats tricky.

[Evodoc1]

Cossie you ever patch this into an Evo 6 rom?

[GrayW]

Cossie you ever patch this into an Evo 6 rom?

Tephra (Dave) has not modified any early roms, only VII, VIII and IX at present.

[Evodoc1]

Thanks Gray:smile:

[evo_gerard]

hey guys i got thru with the conversion. thanks alot!!
evo_gerard

[maximusnz]

Will test this rom this avo :)

[ckibue]

Evo 7 RA Rom with Tephra V5.10 patch

Hi all,
I have an Evo7 whose original ROM was id 98640014. I reckoned I could use this TephraMod in this ECU and flashed it in after transferring the prerequisite tables from the original ROM file.
The Evo 7 won't start with this ROM file though, Immob and second O2 sensor is disabled (5AD0). Do I have to scale the Tephra modded map loads from a max of 300 to 260 or will copying the corresponding table values suffice?:confused1:

[Cossie1]

Enable the valet mode, turn off valet mode and then see if it starts.

Failing that, change back to 56D0 and change immobiliser code to 0xFFFF and see if it works then.

[ckibue]

Enable the valet mode, turn off valet mode and then see if it starts.

Failing that, change back to 56D0 and change immobiliser code to 0xFFFF and see if it works then.

Thanks, I was actually digging through the map and I definately think the valet mode setting for the minimum revs was my problem. Will try again tomorrow. Cheers.

[CARPETMAN]

Hi, I believe the Rom I require is: RA560649R1.

Is this the right one?

Thanks.

[GrayW]

Hi, I believe the Rom I require is: RA560649R1.

Is this the right one?

Thanks.

For what Evo?

[CARPETMAN]

For what Evo?

Hi GrayW, It's an Evo 7 gsr.

What I meant to say was, is this download (Evo 7 Ralliart Rom (Tephra V5.10) 90550001) the same as RA560649R1?

I have tried an RA578511P1 and it didn't work!

Thanks

[GrayW]

Yes this runs the VII, but has the additional Tephra modifications on it.

[CARPETMAN]

Yes this runs the VII, but has the additional Tephra modifications on it.

Thanks. I'll give a go!

[KTNZ]

If we're flashing this rom into a vii running 98640014 do we have to rescale the fuel and timing tables to 260 max load as the original map shows only to 260?

Cheers

[GrayW]

No you can leave them as they are, the RA roms are scaled differently.

[SPAWN]

I found that the R1 incl the patched rom doesn't work well with the EDM evo 7's.


Getting strange knock readings on cruise and P0400 (EGR) fault code.
Flashing back P1 and everthing is fine and no knock on cruise etc etc.

[poombah]

I have an E7 Ecu in an E4.

If I scale the injectors from 542 to 487 (theyre 510cc as opposed to 560cc) is there any reason this wouldnt be safe?

[Cossie1]

Scale them to 472cc and use these latancy's:

4.056
1.944
1.272
0.912
0.696
0.576
0.480

[evonut270]

I have an E7 Ecu in an E4.

If I scale the injectors from 542 to 487 (theyre 510cc as opposed to 560cc) is there any reason this wouldnt be safe?

You will need to check your fuel trims to make sure there between +5/-5

[foxbat]

I need an ALS setting with some decent pops/bangs using this rom. The car is a stock JDM E7 with an E9 turbo installed. So, I know that I'm going to start with a 220 timing retard limit (E9 Turbo) I need figure out what would the best -ve timing (alternate) table settings & ALS settings.

Any help would be appreciated :]

[poombah]

hmm set the injector scaling and latency and uploaded tonight.. car wont start (cranks, coughs n farts but no run).

Tried it without the modified scaling and latency - still doesnt run.... strange.

Will reflash back to previous rom for now.

[poombah]

ahh boo the original rom doesnt start the car either now... i think ive naffed it... bed time.

was running for months and months and months with that rom :(

seems to fart and fire etc... but wont run. maybe coincidently something else has naffed up.. i pulled plugs out, checked and cleaned... batterys charging atm.

-----

attached files im using - the evobase xml and the xml provided in this thread.

90550001-v5.10fix-mods.bin - one you guys provided
russ.hex - same file but with scaling set to 472 and the latency as advised

im using ecu flash:

[23:19:52.546] EcuFlash Version 1.42.2595
[23:19:52.546] OS Version Windows XP
[23:19:52.546] Qt Version 4.5.0

----

[Cossie1]

it won't start because you have valet mode turned on.

And because of that, it won't start on the old rom either, as it's locked in valet mode.

Just hold the throttle down for about 3 - 4 seconds with the ignition on and that will turn valet mode off and the car will fire up then

[foxbat]

I really hate the valet mode!
Do I disable it by only entering a zero under 'enable valet mode' before flashing the rom into the ecu?

it won't start because you have valet mode turned on.

And because of that, it won't start on the old rom either, as it's locked in valet mode.

Just hold the throttle down for about 3 - 4 seconds with the ignition on and that will turn valet mode off and the car will fire up then

[Cossie1]

I really hate the valet mode!
Do I disable it by only entering a zero under 'enable valet mode' before flashing the rom into the ecu?

Yes but sometimes when you first flash, if it's disabled it will enable anyway, and the only way you can start the car is to enable it and then disable with throttle, and then flash again to disable it (small bug in the rom but no big deal)

[poombah]

hmmmmm the old "didnt RTFM" scenario...... i just turned the ignition on and held the throttle for 5 secs and the check engine lights stopped flashing... cant start it as its pretty loud - the neighbours share a common wall with my garage and its 6am... I hope thats sorted it... Cheers guys...

[poombah]

ok i decided 6:30am was late enough - boooyah - fixed... cheers cossie.

I was sure i turned VALET and NLTS off in my first go but after it didnt work i just reverted back to the original thinking id stuffed something.. but yeah that makes sense once its set its locked in there until you switch it off.

[Cossie1]

Glad your car is working for you again now.

I came accross this issue with an old v2 rom I think it was, back in the day, I was messing about with the 90550001 rom and decided to flash to an E8 rom (think I was trying to findout if launch control would work), and my car wouldn't start.

So flashed to stock 90550001 rom, and still wouldn't start.

Flashed back to v2 rom, did the valet mode and fired the car up, then reflashed the E8 rom and the car started fine :lol:

[foxbat]

Yes but sometimes when you first flash, if it's disabled it will enable anyway, and the only way you can start the car is to enable it and then disable with throttle, and then flash again to disable it (small bug in the rom but no big deal)

Hi Cossie,
I'm suppose to flash an E7 the tephra5.10 tomorrow, & I'm so terrified of this valet issue! Please, let me know what is the correct procedure to follow in order to avoid it.

[Cossie1]

Personally i'd leave the valet mode open enabled (but not the enable on fresh ignition option), then if it does enable the valet mode when you first flash, you can disable it with the throttle.

Then fire the car up, and switch off valet mode in the rom, and flash the rom over again with the car running, and you shouldn't have anymore problems.

[foxbat]

Personally i'd leave the valet mode open enabled (but not the enable on fresh ignition option), then if it does enable the valet mode when you first flash, you can disable it with the throttle.

Then fire the car up, and switch off valet mode in the rom, and flash the rom over again with the car running, and you shouldn't have anymore problems.

Ok, sounds good, do I have to reflash (with valet off) even if it doesn't get enabled after the first flash?

[Cossie1]

Ok, sounds good, do I have to reflash (with valet off) even if it doesn't get enabled after the first flash?

No you don't have to do that, it was just how I do it if someone doesn't want any valet mode at all

[foxbat]

Hi Cossie,
I just flashed this rom into an E7 with only one change that I made & that I entered (0) for 'enable auto-valet on fresh ignition'.
At first everything seemed fine, but then the car would bog down massively each time I hit full throttle!!

I hope that your familiar with such a problem & could help me solve it

Thanks
Fox

[Cossie1]

Not come across that before, whats your fueling doing ?

Also you shoud turn all options off (set to 0) that your not going to use, such as map averaging and rear 02 simulation

[foxbat]

Not come across that before, whats your fueling doing ?

Also you shoud turn all options off (set to 0) that your not going to use, such as map averaging and rear 02 simulation

They all were 1s except of 'enable alternate map master...' & 'enable auto-valet on fresh ignition'.
Would any of the enabled options cause such a problem?

I tested a different rom (ralliart+tephra) not sure what version, with all options set at (0) & everything worked fine.

[Cossie1]

don't know if they would or not, but turn off everything your not going to use anyway

[foxbat]

don't know if they would or not, but turn off everything your not going to use anyway

Ok I will, except of valet mode since you recommended that I keep it on anyway, correct?

The car bogged down only at full throttle regardless of rpm & load level & only came back to normal the sec I ease up on the throttle!

[Cossie1]

You shouldn't have a problem turning the valet option off now anyway.

Just make sure if you turn it off, you have the car running when you hit write in ecuflash

[foxbat]

I forgot to mention that I was planing to use an alternate map (with ALS) & that why I left the options on, thinking that some of them are needed to operate the alt map. What are the options needed to operate an alt map?

Do I push the ICS button toward Auto or toward Manual to switch between maps? Is there any signal/indication that the map got switched?

[Cossie1]

You need the map switching option on, and using the autoics button you set the option to 2, everything else should be set to 0, that isnt being used.

You hold it on auto for around 1.5 - 2 seconds and the light on the dash will flicker every now and then

[foxbat]

You need the map switching option on, and using the autoics button you set the option to 2, everything else should be set to 0, that isnt being used.

You hold it on auto for around 1.5 - 2 seconds and the light on the dash will flicker every now and then

Dear Cossie my apologies for bombarding with my questions :smile:
Do I enable map switching by only setting the "enable alt map master..' to (2)?
What about 'restore ics state...' & 'flash ics when alt...'?

The light would keep flickering as long as I'm on alt map?

Thanks Cossie, you're the best

[Cossie1]

yes set those options to on too.

[evonut270]

Make sure NLTS is set to 0

[evo_gerard]

i'm lookin for a 90550001 xml and evo7 base xml which shows the lean spool table and the correct periphery bit tables

[foxbat]

Make sure NLTS is set to 0

Hey evonut270
Do you think that NLTS being set to 1 caused the car to bog down at full throttle? (I wrote earlier about).

Thanks
Fox

[evonut270]

Hey evonut270
Do you think that NLTS being set to 1 caused the car to bog down at full throttle? (I wrote earlier about).

Thanks
Fox

Yep

[Benny]

What 'evo7base' are you guys using for this Cossie?
Is it the 40kb version? Or the 29kb original?

I'm running your 5.10 Rom very successfully so far, have redone the timing etc, just suspecting i've some stuff wrong.

I've added the code for thermo table address's however it is whited out and says its incomplete and invalid. Do I have to re-read the ROM from my ECU and then open it to see the thermo values?
I'm just chasing an issue where the thermo's fire up soon as the key is turned to IGN, run alot when the car is idling cold, and when the car is stopped, they go to full noise for 3sec, then shutdown.

Cheers.

[todd]

What 'evo7base' are you guys using for this Cossie?
Is it the 40kb version? Or the 29kb original?

I'm running your 5.10 Rom very successfully so far, have redone the timing etc, just suspecting i've some stuff wrong.

I've added the code for thermo table address's however it is whited out and says its incomplete and invalid. Do I have to re-read the ROM from my ECU and then open it to see the thermo values?
I'm just chasing an issue where the thermo's fire up soon as the key is turned to IGN, run alot when the car is idling cold, and when the car is stopped, they go to full noise for 3sec, then shutdown.

Cheers.

try changing user level in options id say the fan prob is a faulty fan controller , bolted to back of fan cowling

[Benny]

Yep worked all that out, I was storing my back-ups in the similar location as the current XML's. grrrr

I'm suspecting fan controller but trying to eliminate everything else.. ahha

[gook-o-matik]

Hey guys stumbled across this forum while looking for maps for my evo VII,
I've got tomei front and dump, kakimoto exzorst air filter and fuel pump.... This map should be fine right? If it's knocking just try the other maps yeh? I'm still a noob to ecu tuning ...

[HermaN]

Yes mate, this map will work with your Evo 7, but it has a load of extra features like CEL on Knock, Valet Mode, NLTS, twin maps, etc, etc. If you are having trouble getting the car to run without knocking don't just jump to a Tephra modded ROM with all the extra features, etc.

If you are having problems with knock first check if it's real with det-cans, if it is then fix it ASAP. If there is no knock on the cans, but the knock sensor is picking some up then check to make sure there is nothing loose/vibrating that could be tricking the sensor, it's just a microphone at the end of the day. Make sure the sensor is bolted in properly.

If you want to try a different ROM, try a different standard one, don't play with the Tephra ROMs until you are comfortable with how to properly map a car and your own car is running properly with no knock, then you can play with all the extra features Tephra has available to offer.

[gook-o-matik]

I ran a tephra mod before... Hope this one give me more modrange torque and better fuel consumption...... Would you say I need a ebc for this tune... Wats peak boost on this map? Cheers

[Benny]

~20psi peak, 17psi taper if you're using stock boost control solenoid.

Baseline WGDC is 100% the whole way.

[gook-o-matik]

Noob question wats ntls n valet mode?

[gook-o-matik]

Power output with this flash 190kw atw?

[neilm]

Noob question wats ntls n valet mode?


valet mode is just a preset rpm limiter

no lift to shift

flat foot shifting

[rsvRob]

Just loaded this on an 8 fq300. All good and me mate's happy. He only wanted the launch but now has options :lol:

Question I have is that the engine light came on just up the road as he took it for a test. Got back and did diagnostics and the EGR valve came up. Cleared the code and engine light went out. How do I stop it reappearing?? Thx

[rsvRob]

Ok been checking the evoM forum .... would this be better to run on my mates 8

[And]

which version of the 8 does he have, its a good start but people have had cold start issues and other things which are solvable but you'll have to search for the various answers

[rsvRob]

E8 fq300 original rom attached and tephra rom that I'm getting cel light for egr
No option/periphary to disable the egr showing on the tephra map!!!

[rsvRob]

Sorted ... evo7base xml file was screwed up, replaced with working one now ....

[leong]

hi everyone 90550001 not working on my E7 ecu . cant start up the car . any idea anyone .. hope you guy can help me

[Raza21_84]

hi everyone 90550001 not working on my E7 ecu . cant start up the car . any idea anyone .. hope you guy can help me

check immobiliser code

[GrayW]

No immobiliser on the Ralliart roms, as it's a tephra rom it's probably valet mode. What was the original rom ID on the car?

[RJSP]

Hi Guys, how do you enable launch control with this rom? I don´t see it in the Tephra Mod options. Also, has lean spool been added to this rom´s definition? Can´t find it either.

Thanks,

Ricardo

[foxbat]

It's always enabled, LC limit is set to 5499 (default), to disable it, set LC limit to the same as the normal rev limit.
lean spool:
<table name="Lean Spool Start RPM" category="Fuel" address="1680" type="1D" level="1" scaling="RPMStatLimit"/>
<table name="Lean Spool Stop RPM" category="Fuel" address="1684" type="1D" level="1" scaling="RPMStatLimit"/>

[RJSP]

Thanks a lot foxbat, do you also have the lean spool afr table address?

Also I notice the tables in the "mods" part are all repeated from "Tephra mod options" all the way to "Alternate Boost Desiled Engine Load"... is this normal?

Thanks again,

Ricardo

[foxbat]

Hmm... strange, you should have LS AFR in this xml under fuel, double check it. But anyway the address is:
<table name="Lean Spool AFR" category="Fuel" address="3b66" type="2D" level="2" scaling="AFR">
I'm not sure about the mods list, but I like this rom & I have used it to tune several JDM Evos.

[RJSP]

foxbat, Could you please upload the xml you´re using for this rom? I´m not very literate when it comes to modifying xml´s and the one I downloaded with the zip file seems to be missing the lean spool options.

I followed the instructions in the attached document and that is what duplicated the tables I mentioned earlier. The LS start / stop addresses did work, but I can´t add the LS AFR table without getting an error in ecuflash.

Thanks,

Ricardo

[burgers22]

Are you using the tephra version 7 or version 5? I'll post the one you need if you let me know.

[RJSP]

Hi burgers,

I´m using the 9055001-v5.10fix-mods from the first post in this thread. Is there a v7 for the 9055001 rom?

Thanks,

Ricardo

[foxbat]

Ricardo,
did you see my note?

[Benny]

Yep.

Send a Paypal donation to donations@globalshare.net
Email tephra@gmail.com for the rom and XML.

[Evotuna]

Yes there is, you can donate to Tephra and he'll send it to you. I run it on my 8.

-oops didnt see last page. Already answered.