newbie to mapping

[Ant_evo]

I bought a evo8 fq300 and was told it had been remapped using ecutek, I was then told by another previous owner that it had a ralliart ecu fitted, I have now found out it actually has the piggyback ecu fitted.

It doesn't run as well as my old evo6 after that was mapped and its certainly down on power as I have rolling road graphs saying it runs 360bhp, i'd say its more around 320bhp max.

I have been patiently waiting for a good friend of mine to map it for me, but he's flat out busy and has to keep putting it off.

So I have been thinking about giving it a go myself, I'll need to buy myself a cheap or second hand laptop the cable to connect to the car and a afr gauge and sensor. Would I need anything else?

Next question is do I really need to be a geek :> to map my car? At the moment I have not got a clue what alot of things you guys say on here actually means, but would having it all set up and running in front of me in the car make any more sense?

I'm thinking I can flash a basic map onto my ecu (once piggyback is removed) and then start slowly adjusting things and see how it goes from there?
If I got it wrong what damage could I do? Is it easy to get really wrong or would I have to be a proper twat to mess it up?

Or should I wait for a pro to do it?

Thanks
Ant

[rob2006]

I bought a evo8 fq300 and was told it had been remapped using ecutek, I was then told by another previous owner that it had a ralliart ecu fitted, I have now found out it actually has the piggyback ecu fitted.

It doesn't run as well as my old evo6 after that was mapped and its certainly down on power as I have rolling road graphs saying it runs 360bhp, i'd say its more around 320bhp max.

I have been patiently waiting for a good friend of mine to map it for me, but he's flat out busy and has to keep putting it off.

So I have been thinking about giving it a go myself, I'll need to buy myself a cheap or second hand laptop the cable to connect to the car and a afr gauge and sensor. Would I need anything else?

Next question is do I really need to be a geek :> to map my car? At the moment I have not got a clue what alot of things you guys say on here actually means, but would having it all set up and running in front of me in the car make any more sense?

I'm thinking I can flash a basic map onto my ecu (once piggyback is removed) and then start slowly adjusting things and see how it goes from there?
If I got it wrong what damage could I do? Is it easy to get really wrong or would I have to be a proper twat to mess it up?

Or should I wait for a pro to do it?

Thanks
Ant

Ant,

Evoscan, ECUflash, Laptop, cable, Wb02... there are loads of other little programs that I have picked up from searching around which also help but are not mandatory.

I think a passionate interest in what your doing is important and some knowledge off how to use a PC.

I love playing around with my car, I can do all the mechanicals myself so being able to map it afterwards is very rewarding.

My Favorites/bookmarks tab has exploded with 100's of topics on mapping... my printer has also taken a beating and I have loads of reference material/quotes on paper... mostly from Grayw/andyf/cossie1/johnbanks/lee5

If your hearts in it I think you will absolutely love it..

This is the first thread i read.. i still read it..:lol:

http://forums.evolutionm.net/ecuflash/302895-how-tune-evo.html

[Ant_evo]

Cheers Rob, that looks very helpful and I'll have a good read through that.

I'd love to be able to tune my own car, it's something that would really interest me I just wasn't sure if I was up to being able to understand it all. I am mechanically minded and do alot of work on my own car.
A few years back I was well into tuning my old renault 5 gt turbo and making it go like a rocket, but again I had to get hands on with it to learn how to do things.

Time to get studying and getting some of this info locked into my brain, then I need to price up everything I need and go from there I think.

[GrayW]

Removing the piggy-back ECU and flashing a map more suitable is an easy task. You will really need a wideband and Tactrix cable to begin with.
If you have time to spare, then the job you are likely to do yourself will be much better than paying for it:smile:

[Ant_evo]

Cool, I'm definately up for having a go at this. Been reading up a little bit and I think with time and patience and a bit of back up from people I can learn to do this.
Will take a while to buy the bits needed as money is a bit tight right now but I'll get there slowly.
Will just have to put up with a slow evo for the time being.

Also what about det cans? are you guys using home made jobbies or bought ones?

[GrayW]

Home made ones work fine, but you are never likey to hear much in them.

[lee_r_one]

I hope i am right in saying i think what grayw means is the evo knock sensor will pick up knock and retard the timing to compensate before you are likely to hear it with det cans. propper logs with evoscan will give you more info and maybe knock that is making your car seem slow as well as bad fuelling maps etc etc.

[Ant_evo]

Whilst I'm slowly saving up for all the parts needed for me to slowly start learning how to map my own car is there anybody near-ish to Bristol that could work there magic on my car and get it going how it should do? I need more power and want lots of pops and bangs to put a smile back on my face when I drive my evo.

Pm me if anyone can help and prices etc.

Thanks alot
Ant

[Ant_evo]

Anyone help with the above? pretty please?